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#277830 - 12/18/09 05:07 PM Yamaha launches "revolutionary" new CP pianos
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http://www.musicradar.com/news/tech/yamaha-launches-revolutionary-new-cp-pianos-230065

The CP50 appears to have arranger functions, as does the CP-5.

I wanted them to make an instrument that gave me 88 weighted notes, portability, and styles....is it finally going to be true?

Ian
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#277831 - 12/19/09 09:24 AM Re: Yamaha launches "revolutionary" new CP pianos
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What is so revolutionary? Korg and Casio already have this kind of piano's. You need a magnifier to see what is on the lcd screen.

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#277832 - 12/19/09 09:55 AM Re: Yamaha launches "revolutionary" new CP pianos
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Originally posted by FransN:
What is so revolutionary? Korg and Casio already have this kind of piano's. You need a magnifier to see what is on the lcd screen.


Perhaps you should first check out these videos: http://keyboardmag.com/article/yamaha-cp-1-stage/December-2009/105233

They are miles ahead of what Korg and Casio and Roland are making, in my opinion, of course. The C1 is far more powerful than the V-Piano and even has extensive controller features.

But, watch the videos and form your own opinion.

Ian

BTW it is not an LCD...it is a highly visible vacuum fluorescent display.
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#277833 - 12/19/09 01:04 PM Re: Yamaha launches "revolutionary" new CP pianos
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No styles...and the piano part has already been done. Not much revolutionary here. Except maybe the price!!! $6500USD 4000 pounds, $7200 Ausse...That's a serious amount of cash for just a piano.

Check the specs at www.yamahasynth.com there is no mention of anything apart from pianos, and certainly nothing about styles.

Without definite info from Yamaha, and as they ARE the masters of "spin" as is the OP , you would expect them to be spruiking it loudly, the rythms listed I suspect are just some drum patterns, vis-a-vis the Kurzweil stage pianos.

Nope I think this offering from Yamaha is the SAME as the Roland. An overpriced piano, and really only for those who can get them for free, or have bags and bags of money. Oh, and roadies

To get arranger functions with this means a seperate keyboard. Way to complicated.

Korg has it right with the PA588, it does much MUCH more than this uber piano from Yamaha.

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#277834 - 12/19/09 01:18 PM Re: Yamaha launches "revolutionary" new CP pianos
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I have a CP1 on order...I'll let you know.

It's got way more features than the V-Piano, and a better key-bed than the Korgs, and that screen looks incredible.

As you say, the rhythms must be just drum patterns...I'm not interested in those, but I do want a nice high quality digital piano and controller for home use...hence the C1.

Those Rhodes samples sounded delicious, and the acoustic piano seems pretty smooth to me...couldn't hear any loops. The bass notes seemed to have the most natural decay I've ever heard in a digital.

The Korg PA-588 seems okay, but the piano doesn't sound so good...my old P-85 had a better piano sound, in my opinion. The Korg has a very weak mid range.

I think Yamaha has three winners with these new instruments. Yee Haw!

Ian


[This message has been edited by ianmcnll (edited 12-21-2009).]
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#277835 - 12/19/09 05:18 PM Re: Yamaha launches "revolutionary" new CP pianos
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I have seen it. Again a lot of hype from Yamaha. And what is so great about the screen Ian. It is so small. I know you are a Yamaha fan Ian but be this Yamaha piano is not revolutionary and way overpriced.

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#277836 - 12/19/09 05:30 PM Re: Yamaha launches "revolutionary" new CP pianos
ianmcnll Offline
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Sorry Frans...I'm not going to be discouraged...the instrument looks great, and sounds great.

I don't have to keep it.

I just want to try it for a few weeks or so.

Then I'll decide.

Ian
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#277837 - 12/19/09 11:41 PM Re: Yamaha launches "revolutionary" new CP pianos
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Ian, a quick question. At $6900 Cdn., and if you did not have 'in house' access to this piano, would you shell out of your own pocket? Yes or no?

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#277838 - 12/20/09 01:32 AM Re: Yamaha launches "revolutionary" new CP pianos
ianmcnll Offline
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Originally posted by 124:
Ian, a quick question. At $6900 Cdn., and if you did not have 'in house' access to this piano, would you shell out of your own pocket? Yes or no?


I can't say till I've actually played it, which would be the same for any instrument.

I'd know within a few hours if it was what I wanted, which would be about the same as trying it out over a few days in a store.

It's got far more features than a V-Piano, and it trumps Yamaha's CP-300 for flexibility and that wooden key-bed will also add to it's desirability.

Plus, I'd wait a bit until the street price came down a bit more.

I want a good 88 note controller/piano, and I don't think I'll be bowled over by the CVP-509, since I already have the PSR-S910.

I will also wait and try the C5/C50, which will be out in March or April 2010. I'm in no rush.

Anything over $5000 is not something I'd call an impulse buy for me.

Ian
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#277839 - 12/20/09 08:47 AM Re: Yamaha launches "revolutionary" new CP pianos
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$6900 is a lot of money, but I know what you're saying, Ian. Some things just hit you in the sweet (or weak) spot, so to speak, and you just gotta have it. Sounds like there's some good stuff comin' down the pipe.

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